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Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Transcript – Suzy Star on The Light Agenda – Part 1/2

Transcript – Suzy Star on The Light Agenda – Part 1/2

2012 August 7
Posted by Stephen Cook

Transcript – Suzy Star on The Light Agenda with Stephen Cook Part 1/2

Here is Part 1 of my interview with 82-year-old Lightworker and Starseed, the delightful Suzy Star from The Light Agenda on July 18. Part 2 tomorrow. As usual, huge thanks to Ellen for transcribing.


Stephen Cook: Hello, and welcome to the Light Agenda. I’m Stephen Cook, and thank you so much for joining me and my special guest, Lightworker and Starseed Suzy Star, today.

Now, just before Suzy and I get chatting about her phenomenal and totally fascinating 82-years-young journey on this planet, I wanted to thank American Kabuki for going public for the first time and baring his soul last week, and thank you to all of you who’ve written to him and embraced him with your love and light. He tells me he’s had much more love from all of you than he ever had when he was leaving his church. And I was also really thrilled to hear that so many of you could relate to his story, and that’s really what this program, The Light Agenda, is all about.

So if you haven’t yet tuned into American Kabuki’s show I suggest you do, and you can do so here on In Light Radio if you just head back to last week’s show in the archives. And remember, you can listen to any of the the Light Agenda past shows, whether that be Suzy Ward, Scott Mowry, Fran Zepeda, any time by heading to the In Light Radio archives whenever you choose.

Now, to today. I first discovered my delightful guest via The 2012 Scenario, although to some of you she may well be very well known. We put out a call a couple of months back asking for readers of the site to write in about their own awakening stories after one of our editors, Andrew Eardley, had written his. And among them was one that started like this:

My story: I’m a Starseed, or what some would call an Indigo Child, and I have been in this body for 82 years. As far back as I can remember, I told my parents I was never going to die, that they did not have to grow old, and that you could live forever.”

And that line really struck a chord with me instantly, because for some reason I’ve also known that I was never going to die — well, not in this lifetime, anyway. And so, I read on.

Now, it was a beautifully written story, and the author’s true beauty came shining through. And I went to the writer’s website, which is , and I was even more impressed, and I could really feel her love.

As you’re going to hear today, the young girl who was born Suzy Ellen Villines, in Oklahoma in 1930, has crammed more things into her 82 years than most of us would in several lifetimes, and she is as young as any of us. And in fact, we’re going to hear how she plans to be going for around about another 5,000 years, and we’re even going to learn about why extraterrestrial orgasms are the best — and yes, you heard me right, extraterrestrial orgasms.

Suzy Star, welcome to the Light Agenda.

Suzy Star: Thank you, and hello.

SC: [laugh] Now, there’s an opening some of our listeners may not have expected, and we’re going to get to matters of ET sex a little bit later. But we’re going to be talking about your life in great detail, and we’re going to talk about some very eye-opening parts of your personal journey, and I should say now we may even need to go beyond the usual hour because you have so much to tell us and share with all of us.

Let’s talk first about what you’re doing now and the mission you’re carrying out.

SS: Well, my current mission is to attract as many other Starseeds and Lightworkers as possible who, many of them know that they were chosen to come here, or they chose themselves to come here, to make some major changes in our Earth. And so for the last eight years that I’ve been here in Oregon I have spent my full time, because I am retired, so I have plenty of time to devote my full life to that mission.

SC: Now, you’ve cracked me up a bit there because you say you’re retired. You are so busy! You are working like two full-time jobs at once. And that mission’s become a very special project called creative communities, and that’s what you’ve been working on for eight years. And it’s not retirement. You are working your butt off!

SS: I love it. And when … you know, when you love what you’re doing, you don’t consider it work.

SC: Exactly. [laugh] And that’s the future of life for all of us.

So, Suzy, let’s talk first about what you’re doing now and the mission you’re carrying out, because for the past eight years you’ve been in what I call full-time work getting together a very special project called Creative Communities. What is Creative Communities, and what is it all about?

SS: It’s a community where people can live and become completely self-sufficient. When we ascend or move into the next dimension, not everyone is going to get there at the same time. And so there is going to be a need for a place such as the creative communities where people can, as I say, live and be completely self-sufficient.

SC: So what’s in those communities? How are they structured?

SS: Okay. They’re in addition to the community center, which is the one that you see when you look at my website. That’s only on six acres of land. The Creative Communities are going to encompass anywhere from a hundred to two, three-hundred acres parcels. And in addition to the community center, there will be all kinds of shopping centers, individual farms of two or three acres, and a relief center; there’ll be an orphanage for children, a hospital, a veterinarian clinic — everything that they need to survive. If they have a desire, they have no need to leave that community.

SC: So it’s totally self-sufficient. It will have buildings, it will have its own food source, it will have its own health care, everything in the one place.

SS: That’s correct.

SC: And how many people would live in a Creative Community?
SS: Well, at the end, depending on the need and the size. Every one will be different, so it’s hard to say, because again it depends on the population. We plan to put at least one in every state, then we plan on going around the world. And some states that are very large and have a need for it, there’ll be two or three. And we won’t know until the time to build them how many are actually needed.

SC: In terms of how you’ve set this up, how did this all start? I know you had visions when you were at the Ramtha Center, and we’ll talk about that later, but how did this start? How does one suddenly go about over an eight-year period of time pulling together resources? You know, you’re obviously looking for doctors, you’re looking for engineers, you’re looking for construction workers in order to build these communities. Have you done that?

SS: Yes, I have. And as I said, it’s just been evolving. I know that there’s probably not going to be a need so much for people to help build them, because I have been told that once our extraterrestrial individuals are allowed to come down and work among us, that they have the technology where they can have one of these centers up and running in three days.

SC: Wow! [laugh]

SS: Yeah. [laugh] So, again, for me it’s been an evolving process, because I didn’t know that eight years ago, although it was … actually I had been told that, but it hadn’t really sunk in yet. And I figured that, you know, we would start building them much sooner than the extraterrestrial technology would be available to us.

But as it is seen now, it’s beginning to look more like that the people that I’m going to need and will continue having a need for are people who can actually run the center and provide the education and the technology that these people, what I call bridge people, that are awake but not fully awake… they haven’t ascended yet. And that’s our job, it is for us to show them how it is possible and what they can look forward to with the training and the teaching that we give them in the creative community.

SC: Okay. So, essentially, they’re going to be places of respite or places of healing in between for people who are on their path to Ascension?

SS: Yes.

SC: Now, you’ve been traveling, even now. You’ve been to Canada, you’ve been to Trinidad?

SS: Yes. Trinidad, Mexico, all on the East Coast….

SC: But in terms of the concept, the aim of them is just simply to have somewhere for people to go and to live?

SS: Yes. Yes.

SC: Okay.

SS: They can live there, and then we have an outreach program for people that can come and take advantage of the community center.

SC: And you’ve been working very closely with one particular man on this.

SS: Yes. Dr. Albrecht Maxwell von Hohenlohe-Langenburg.

SC: And he has a company called Langenburg Technologies, which is a company that’s already in existence in the US.

SS: That’s correct.

SC: But it’s his water that you’re most interested in.

SS: Yeah. And that was what he commissioned my partner and I to do, is to place these 250-plus creative communities, only at that time we just thought they were going to be water facilities, around the world. I had no idea that my creative communities — and at that point in time they were just community centers — were going to be involved in this. I found that out at some point in time afterwards.

But basically the water is a very evolved water. It contains a seven-sided crystalline oxygen that’s vibrating at the fifth-dimensional level. And this oxygen penetrates the cell and replaces the oxygen that is currently in the body with a fifth-dimensional vibrating oxygen. And when enough of this oxygen is in the body, the body will then have the capacity of vibrating at the fifth-dimensional level.

SC: So, can we get this water now?

SS: Oh, yes! Absolutely. In fact, we just last week made a run to Portland and delivered a bunch of water there, and there are plans to go to Seattle in the near future. And if there are enough people that are interested to make it worth our time, we can travel wherever and deliver the water to them. They can come and …

SC: Hey, bring it to me in Australia! I want it now! [laugh]

SS: I don’t blame you, because it’s fabulous!

SC: Well, the water is pH balanced, mineral balanced, it’s structurally restored, it’s micro-clustered.

SS: And then in addition it also produces extra power that is created from the waste that is brought out when we purify the water.

SC: And it’s all free.

SS: Yeah.

SC: Wow.

SS: He also has some powders that I have found clients and customers for. It’s pricey, but it’s well worth it if you can afford it, because it does incredible things for the body.

SC: Oh, you’re a good saleswoman! [laugh]

SS: Well, I’m a good example, too, because even though, you know, when you look at me, I’m 83 but I look like I’m in my 55 or 60. And do I sound like an 83-year-old woman?

SC: No!

SS: No way! No way!

SC: And do you think like an 83-year-old or 82 — are you 83? I thought you were 82. No, you’re 83 now?

SS: Eighty — no, actually, I’m still 82. I don’t know why I …

SC: Yeah, you were 82 in April?

SS: Yes.

SC: But you’re in your 83rd year. That’s how I look at it.

SS: Okay. There you go.
SC: Yeah.
SS: Sure.
SC: And nor do you — nor do you think like an 82-year-old, I might add

SS: No! And, see, and that’s why I can’t … I mean… I can empathize with older people, but I can’t really associate with them because … they bore me.

SC: Oh, that’s ‘cause — that’s just because we’re ageless, that’s why. Now …

SS: I think so.

SC: … it’s interesting, though, because it was Dr. Albrecht that came to you with the water, and from the water concept you then managed to kind of align it with your creative community’s vision. And now the two are sitting really beautifully in simpatico together, as we …

SS: Oh, yeah!

SC: … as we move forward.

SS: Yeah. Well, as a matter of fact, when Dr. Langenburg, you know, commissioned me and I moved here, then after I moved here I went back to the Ramtha School for my last retreat. And it was there that it came to me that the reason why I had named my non-profit organization as the Infinity Community Centers, it came to me that, my God, I’m not supposed to just put water facilities around the world, but these creative communities also!

And so I could hardly wait to get back to tell Dr. Langenburg. And when I told him, he just smiled very sweetly and patted my hand, and he said, “Yes, dar-ling,” he said, “I’ve just been waiting for you to come to that conclusion.”

Or realization. Yeah. And so that’s how that all came about.

SC: That’s fantastic. It’s funny these days how everything comes together. We all seem to meet the people that we’re meant to meet. And then somehow the concepts all infuse, and we realize that we’re actually all on exactly the same path.

SS: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. In fact, you know, that’s one of the things that I always tell people, because they come to me, you know, and they say to me, “Oh, you’re so incredible, and you’re this, and you’re that,” and I say, “You know what? So are you! And the reason why you came to me when you did is because it was time for us to connect. And you’re just as important as I am. And I could never do this all on my own.”

I can conceive the idea, but I need a whole crew of people, and so that’s what I’ve been attracting this last eight years. And it’s been an incredibly interesting journey. I love it.

There’s never a day go by that I don’t meet another new, interesting, exciting person that’s going to be part of these creative communities.

SC: Now, speaking about your interesting journey, you were born in Oklahoma in 1930. But you …

SS: Correct.

SC: … but you had incredible memories almost instantly. Are you an only child? Or did you have brothers and sisters?

SS: Oh, no. I had one older sister, who died when I was six, and then I had two older brothers eight and ten years older than me, and then I had a younger sister. And then I had an older sister but I was not aware she was my sister. We were told it was my aunt who would come and spend every summer with us. So there was actually six in our family. And —
SC: And are they all alive now?
SS: No. None of — in fact, none of them are alive.
SC: Oh, you’re the only one?
SS: Yeah, I’m the only one left.
SC: Ohhh. Growing up, though, you actually looked very different, because your father has French heritage — is that correct? French Indian?

SS: Yeah. He’s French and Indian. Yeah. He’s part of the Huguenots. I don’t know if you’re familiar with the Huguenots or not.

SC: Well, they’re a famous French historical family.

SS: Oh, yeah. They were run out of France!

SC: And your mother’s background?

SS: And my mother was a Moore, yeah.

SC: As in the surname M O O R E.

SS: Yes.
SC: Yes.

SS: Uh-hunh. From Europe. And her father was Andrew Jackson Stevens. He was the grandson of Andy Jackson, one of our former Presidents. A very, very outspoken, different kind of a President. Very opinionated and … different.

SC: Talking about different, tell me about your looks, because you were very different looking to the rest of your family, and you knew that instantly.

SS: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. But, you know, it’s interesting, because I chose my parents, and I, when I incarnated, I said I want to have golden hair! And in prior lives I had had dark hair. So, anyway, my family were all tall. My mother was 5’9”, and so was my father, in fact, I think he was 5’10”, and they all could either pass for French or Indian.

And we lived two miles outside the Indian reservation, and we used to go there and spend a lot of time at the Indian reservation. And they would hide me under a blanket, because if you’re Indian you’d get in for free, and they didn’t have a lot of money. So, but once we got inside I could get out and go and dance with the kids.

But I was short, with the golden blonde hair, and eyes to match, with this tall, dark family, and… quite a contrast. But I came into life with complete recall and memory of who I was and why I had chosen this family. And, incidentally, I chose them for all the wonderful lessons that they could train me and teach me. And I came here to express — to learn to express as a human. And so that’s what I did. And …

SC: Now, in saying that, you already, at that age, you knew that you had come from an extraterrestrial life straight to Earth …

SS: That’s correct.

SC: … and you knew you were Andromedan. How did you know that?

SS: Well, I used to travel. Before I became an Andromedan I was a light being and I traveled to all the different planets teaching love, because technology without love never works for any length of time. It is always self defeating.

SC: How true.

SS: And so that was — yeah. So, that was my mission. And when I went to Andromeda and worked among the Andromedans I fell in love with them. And so when I decided to take on a human body, I took on a body as an Andromedan. And that’s why I say that I am from Andromeda.

SC: Your mother and your father — you’ve said what they looked like, but what were they like? Because you didn’t have a great relationship with your mother.

SS: No. My mother was brilliant. She was way ahead of her time, but she was a pioneer and she was teaching school when she was 16 years old. And she became what they call a home economist, and that’s what I needed to learn. She taught me how to skin rabbits, how to butcher and can chickens and how to make clothes. I was designing my own clothes when I was 14, and making them. And she taught me how to do all of those things.

SC: But she was quite — I suppose strict isn’t the word. She was violent with you.

SS: Yes. Oh, yeah. She could not understand me. It really freaked her out, because she would go to say something to me, and I would tell her what she was going to tell me before she opened her mouth. [laughter] And she disciplined me in the only way, bless her heart, that she knew how. And that was the way her parents had disciplined her. So she would take the cuff of her hand and hit me up against the side of the head, bounce me up against the wall, and many times knock me out.

And my Andromedan families would come and get me and heal me, and other times I would flee from her and hide in our garden. And I’d be in her garden, and I can remember, I was very tiny, and her flowers were taller than me. And the little sprites and angels would come and they would sit on the petals of her flowers and lean over and comfort me and wipe away my tears, and reassure me that my mother really loved me, it was just that I was so different from all the other children that she couldn’t understand.

SC: Wow. And what was your father like?

SS: My father was the most gentle, loving man. He had come from a very wealthy family, one of 13 children. He was orphaned at a very young age and his older brothers and sisters raised him. And he had always had a lot of money.

And then when he married my mother he had gone through his fortune, and they ended up very poor, with very little money. But he always was one that I could go to when mother got too violent with me, and he would hold me in his lap and cuddle me and rock me and reassure me that everything was okay and that he really loved me.

SC: When you first went to school, even in kindergarten, you were playing hooky.

SS: Yeah. Yeah.
SC: How come? How come?
SS: Well, because I couldn’t communicate with the kids in school. I was so far ahead of ’em. I could put my hand on the book and I already knew what they were going to teach us. And I could tell you what was in that book just without even opening the book. And this freaked the kids out in school. And then I kept lapsing into this foreign language, and they couldn’t understand that.

So I got to the point where I didn’t want to go to school. So, I would hide …. We lived 12 blocks from school, and my brother, my second-oldest brother was supposed to take me to school. And we’d get there part way, and then I would convince him that I wanted to walk with my little friends, and so he would go on not knowing that I was ducking into the alley and hiding among the garbage or trash cans. And when he would leave me like that, my Andromedans would come down and get me and take me up to Andromeda to the school that I was used to going to, and where I felt very comfortable.

SC: Because you did have your own language. It was almost like hieroglyphics.

SS: Yeah, it was, it was. Yeah. And I know now that it was the Andromedan language. And it almost sounds like Italian. And my mother, bless her heart, you know, she took in laundry so that she could hire an elocutionist to teach me how to speak the perfect English. And that made it even worse in school because the teacher then stood me up in front of everybody and said, “This is the way you’re supposed to talk.” And you know Oklahoma has a terrible accent!

SC: Oh, don’t say that! Anyone from Oklahoma, now, do not be offended. [laugh]

SS: Oh, I know. I know. In fact, I always told my younger sister, you know, she was 19 and she came to visit me one time, and I told her, I said, “You know, Joy, just because you were born and raised in Oklahoma doesn’t mean that you have to sound like them for the rest of your life.”

SC: Oh, Suzy! [laugh]

SS: I know!

SC: So, you went through school feeling like an outcast the whole time.

SS: Oh, absolutely. Yeah, yeah.

SC: And that became ….

SS: And then they kept putting me ahead because I was so far ahead of everybody. And they kept putting me, putting me ahead. I graduated when I was 16.

SC: But prior to that, at 14, you had a really big moment, because the previous 14 years of your life you’d been quite okay with going to spaceships and going to Andromeda and communicating with your Andromedan family. But suddenly at 14 you decided that was enough?

SS: Yes. I had a terrible nightmare that woke up the whole family.
My sister, bless her heart, crawled under the bed — she slept in the bed with me — and she crawled under the bed and hid, under the bed. My parents come running in, and I screamed and cried out, and I said, “I don’t want to know any more! Please, go away and leave me alone.” And they did.

SC: From that moment on? From 14 on?

SS: Yeah. Yeah. So, within two weeks I lost all my telepathic abilities, the veil was dropped, and from the age of 14 until I was 40, I led what I call a very 3D life.

SC: Well, let’s talk about that, because we’re going to come back in a little while to talk about when you were 40. And it was really 26 years that you locked yourself into three-dimensional, let’s say, reality. [laugh]

SS: Right. And of course there are no accidents, and I was supposed to do that, because that allowed me the opportunity to learn to express as a human, which is what I needed to learn how to do in order to be effective in my creative communities.

SC: Umm. Umm. Well, let’s talk about being in that human, I suppose, relativity. At 16, your mother chose a husband for you.

SS: Yes. My mother was very, very controlling. She wanted me to be around her. I was never allowed to go on a date without my mother either accompanying us…. If we went to the movie, she sat three or four rows behind us. I never had an opportunity to be alone until I met this man that my mother picked, and he was eight years older than me…

SC: Okay, so he was 24 and you were 16.

SS: Yes. And he had come back from the military, had been stationed over in Europe, and was a very disturbed individual, which we did not know. And she picked him out. And when I was 16 we played hooky from school — I did — and went to his mother’s place for lunch. And on the way there he raped me in the shed. Wanted to make sure that I was a virgin. [laugh] He found out.

Anyway, we had lunch with his mother, and when I got home, my mother knew that I had played hooky from school, and she took me out in the garage and gave me a beating like I have never, ever had, with a belt buckle. And I finally got away from her, and ….

SC: So you got raped and then bashed in the same day?

SS: Yeah. Yeah. And I then …

SC: And how did you feel at that time, though?

SS: Well, horrible. And I didn’t know what to do. I ran and I called my future husband at work, and he said, “Well, go to my mother,” and so I did. And so she cleaned me up and put me to bed, gave me a sedative, and about six o’clock, seven o’clock that night my father came and got me. And he, bless his heart, hugged me and loved me, and he said, “You know, if you don’t want to marry him, you don’t have to.” And I said, “No, Dad, it’s okay. I will.” So…

SC: And you didn’t feel like you wanted to run away at that time and not marry this man?

SS: No, I wanted to do — I felt that I needed to do what my mother wanted me to do, plus I felt that I didn’t really understand that much about what he had done, and I just knew that it was painful and … I didn’t even know how babies were created, if you can believe that. Okay? I mean, that’s how naïve I was.

SC: Gosh.

SS: Yeah. So I graduated in June, and in July I married him.

SC: And then, so you married him, and then — but he continued to rape you after that?

SS: Yes. Yes. And this went on for four months, and I had a very other traumatic experience with some details that I don’t need to go into, but at any rate my mother was coming to pick me up. We were going to go and pick corn. She came by at four o’clock in the morning and found me passed out on the floor, and Bill had fled. And she called the ambulance, they took me to the hospital, and I had a nervous breakdown.

And she went, while I was in the hospital, because her doctor, her family doctor told her that I needed to get away from him, that if I — if she didn’t get me away that he would end up killing me. And so she got an annulment while I was in the hospital.

So, when I got out of the hospital, he continued to stalk us. He could not accept the fact that we were no longer married. And so, finally my mother decided that we needed to get out of town. So we moved from there to California.

SC: And so your father, all of you, moved as a family?

SS: No, my father stayed there because my youngest sister was still at home and still in school, and they didn’t want to uproot her, plus my father needed to continue working.

SC: Right.

SS: So just my mother and I moved to Santa Anna, California.

SC: Now, you then got remarried at 18, so you must have met someone else quite quickly, or was that someone else your mother chose for you to marry?

SS: No, no. She didn’t choose him. And it was interesting, because I worked while I was in Santa Ana for that —

SC: Yes, you started working with the German man.

SS: Yes. And …

SC: And he actually worked in alternative medicine, which is interesting …

SS: That’s correct, yes.

SC: … because you, actually, at that point, even at 16, were working with that alternate healing process where it was infrared and other things that we use for healing.

SS: Rife — yeah, the Rife machine. Yes. And I didn’t realize, you know, how — I just thought that was a fact of life. I didn’t realize it was alternative.

SC: Right. But at 18, so we’ve gone to work for the first time… Yeah?

SS: My mother had the tailor shop at the El Toro Marine Base, and my oldest brother ran the commissary at the El Toro Marine Base. And I used to go there after my work, or on my days off, and visit my mother, and that’s where I met my new husband, my second husband.

We went out on a couple of dates. [laugh] My mother drove us to the movies and then came and picked us up after the movies, and so we never really had a chance to do anything or, you know, get to ‘really know’ one another… But he was getting discharged, and he was from Michigan. And when he got back to Detroit, Michigan he invited me to come there as a belated birthday present and sent me a ticket to go there.

And so I went to Detroit and never left. Ended up marrying him.

SC: Yes. And then you had five children?

SS: I had five children by him and four miscarriages.

SC: We’re going to talk a little bit about miscarriages in a little while. But you were married to him for 22 years?

SS: That’s correct. Yes.

SC: Now, he was a very kind man, and you had a …

SS: Oh, yes.

SC: … and you had a good marriage?

SS: Well, we did for the first ten years. He was brilliant, absolutely brilliant, but he had had a very disturbed childhood also. And, bless his heart, you know, I just — I overwhelmed him I know, because he didn’t really want children. I thought that because he had been raised Catholic that if I had the children he would, you know, immediately change and love them.

And he did love them in his own way, but for the first ten years of our marriage he couldn’t really relate to the children. He just wanted me. Okay? And I was — I have to say this — I was very, very beautiful. His favorite thing to do would be to dress me up in fancy, sexy clothes and walk about a foot behind me. And he would take me to Chicago to the big ballrooms, and we had all these beautiful dances there, with Harry James and Bing — you know, you name ‘em, all the big time bands were all popular back in the ’48-50 area.

So, I spent most of my time playing with the children myself. I would take them out during the day, while he slept. He worked swing, on purpose. And then I would bring them home and put them in for a nap, and then he would come in and I’d fix him something to eat, and he would go off for work. And then I’d get the kids up and play with them until bedtime, put them to bed. And then I would pick up every, very scrap of anything that would remind him of the children. And he would come home and have a drink and his pipe and want me in my sexy negligee.

SC: Now, he was an alcoholic, but he was a kind man. But he …

SS: Not at the very beginning, he wasn’t. The first ten years he was fine. It wasn’t until I left him, because I found out that he was getting drunk at work, and my next-door-neighbor, who I thought was my friend, was meeting him and they were having a sexual relationship together. And I left him, and was pregnant for my fifth child — no, fourth child — and left him and he at the last minute decided to come with me. And we moved from there to California.

SC: Now, when you got to California, the kids by that stage had started going to school. And that was the beginning of you going back to work. And you started originally as a volunteer, and you organized massive parades for a — I think it was a 5,000-member-strong residents group. And you were doing like marching bands and all sorts of stuff, and you loved that.

But then, the next job that you had was a paid job. And you went to work for Fairchild Semiconductor?

SS: That’s correct. Fairchild Semiconductor.

SC: And you started in quite a … I suppose a menial task there, but

SS: Oh, yeah.

SC: … but women’s lib was coming, and suddenly you and I think it was 43 other women were asked, and or told that you could sit a particular exam with the company, and if you did, you would end up possibly getting a college scholarship.

SS: Well, almost. There were 360 some-odd people that applied for that position, and only 43 of us passed.

SC: And then you got into college, and only 21 of that 43 got through.

SS: That’s correct.

SC: But you ended up becoming of all things, an electronic technician with Fairfield … Fairchild.

SS: That’s correct.

SC: And you were running big teams of people as well.

SS: Yes. Yes. Yeah. I was conducting tours with all the visiting engineers from all around the world that would come there. And my job was to take them through the whole process and show them how we created the integrated circuits.

SC: So, you’d gone from working with alternative medicine, then kind of being an event organizer and running massive parades. Then you’re working in fairly high-tech technology stuff. You went on to be an interior designer. You also were a girl Friday, and you’ve done all sorts of things. But when I listen to you, it’s always … for you, it’s about the fun element.

SS: [laugh] I would say that’s absolutely correct, yes.

SC: Learning, learning and fun.

SS: Oh, yes. Oh, yes. An adventure! You know, life is an adventure, and you see, what I was learning all in these different professions was how to express as a human. And those are all human positions that we do.

SC: But also all of those things that happened in your personal life as well, they all … you know, you had … it’s almost like you had to go through everything in order to experience every facet of being a human.

SS: Oh, yes. But, and I loved all the details, you see.

SC: Even if it was hard at the time.

SS: Well, yeah. But I never looked at it as being hard, you know. To me it was just … it was just a challenge.

SC: Because — sorry, I jumped ahead a bit there — because eventually you and your husband were separated. And then, at 40, you’d already suffered quite a bit of pneumonia, and you also had asthma for quite some time. But at 40 you got very, very sick, and …
SS: Yes.

SC: … they discovered that you had a massive malignant cancerous tumor that was …

SS: Yes.
SC: … that was growing in your womb.

SS: Yes.

SC: Can you tell me a little bit about the illness, there?

SS: Well, I was still working at Fairchild when it happened, and I think it was just the stress of everything, plus my husband by that time had really, to me, become what I considered a helpless alcoholic. He did the best he could, bless his heart.

And he told me, you know, when he said, “You have to … you need to go to work. You might as well be making … getting paid for all of the creative work that you’re giving away” — because to him it was giving it away, even though he didn’t realize that what I was doing was helping to educate my children and expose them to the world also…

SC: But were you still living with him at that point?

SS: Oh, yes. I lived with him …

SC: Right.

SS: … until I came home from the hospital after having that operation.

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